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Pyracantha from ELECTRON BLUE here:

This article brings up something which I have wondered about for some time. (It was also brought up many years ago in an episode of STAR TREK: VOYAGER.) What if you were a bio-researcher of some kind and you came across data that was of major significance, but was gotten through unethical means, for instance vivisection of humans or torture or murder. You realize that this data is extremely valuable and could make a breakthrough that would save many lives, but it was gotten through very wrong means. What would you do? I suspect that most scientists would use the data regardless.

Hi there! [Incidentally, I've tried to email you a couple of times but it bounced....]

Yes, I think most scientists would use the ill-gotten data, especially since (a) it could save lives, and (b) they were not, themselves, the ones who did the torturing or murdering.

Scientific ethics is a dicey balance, though, and it's not at all black and white in most cases. Even in the cases of the rather gruesome use of science in the service of art described in the above post, it's easy to have seriously mixed feelings on the subject of, say, whether Fragonard was a brilliant scientist/artist, or a crazy person with an unhealthy interest in corpses. I happen to think the former was the case, and similarly, don't find von Hagens' "Body Works" exhibit especially appalling, either. But drawing a young woman's blood and using to make a crude scrawl and call it a "painting" -- that one I have some trouble accepting as "art."

But hey... that's just me. What makes ethical issues such a sticky wicket is that everyone draws the line in a different place....

Thanks for your reply! You can e-mail me at [email protected]. It shouldn't bounce, which address did you use? By the way I have just bought your BLACK BODIES AND QUANTUM CATS and look forward to reading it.
A Physicist who had a cat with the "tuxedo" pattern might call the cat "Black Body."

I can't help but think about a couple of things here:

Neal Stephenson's (related? hmmm.) descriptions of the Royal Society's (Hooke, Newton, etc.) cadaver dissections and experimentation in the late 17th century in his novel "Quicksilver".

And poet Andrei Codrescu's Exquisite Corpse web site:
http://www.corpse.org/

As corpses (or not), we're all exquisite.

bc

Speaking of artists of the past, what do you think of Hockney's Thesis? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/essays/vanRiper/030220.htm)

PS: Fleeing Edinburgh scot-free eh? Very cute.

So glad someone appreciated my very bad pun. :) As for the Hockney thesis, see my prior post on that topic:
http://www.twistedphysics.typepad.com/cocktail_party_physics/2006/03/ocular_proof.html

All the very best wishes to both of you, and a long and happy future as a married couple!

Stefan

I've always liked the idea that KISS had mixed their blood with a Comic book. But they did it consciously (or contractually) not unconsciously. http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/kissblood.asp

Congrats on the nuptuals.

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